You should also look at The Minnesota Study (Coronary Experiment), a clinical trial conducted between 1968 and 1973 where participants at an institution were given the same meals every day with one group having food cooked in vegetable oils and the other in high saturated fat animal fats.
"There was a 22% higher risk of death for each 30 mg/dL (0.78 mmol/L) reduction in serum cholesterol in covariate adjusted Cox regression models (hazard ratio 1.22, 95% confidence interval 1.14 to 1.32; P<0.001). There was no evidence of benefit in the intervention group for coronary atherosclerosis or myocardial infarcts."
And regarding vegetable oils lowering LDL cholesterol, that is not necessarily a good thing for one's health. See this lecture by research doctor Nadir Ali.
"Understand that oxidation within our circulation is a cause of heart disease, and if you understand that, you can see why seed oils could be a problem, but besides their oxidation potential, there's another element to seed oils that makes 'em particularly problematic when it comes to heart disease, something which is usually not considered at all.
You see they contain something called phytosterols or plant sterols, which you can think of as fake plant cholesterol. As you can see, they're near identical to cholesterol but not quite similar enough to be absorbed by the body and place of cholesterol, but different enough to not work the same.
Basically phytosterols interfere with the normal biochemical processes that use cholesterol. The highest concentration of these plant sterols is found within seed oils, especially rice bran corn and rapeseed."
"Dr. Chris Knobbe is a physician, researcher, ophthalmologist, public health advocate, and Associate Clinical Professor Emeritus, formerly of the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas, Texas. He is known primarily for his research, publications, and presentations connecting Westernised diets and highly polyunsaturated vegetable oils to numerous chronic diseases, including coronary heart disease, hypertension, stroke, cancers, type 2 diabetes, metabolic syndrome, obesity, Alzheimer’s disease, autoimmune diseases, and age-related macular degeneration (AMD).
Dr. Knobbe’s research has focused greatly on the “vegetable oil hypothesis” as the primary driver of overweight and chronic disease. In 2016 he formally introduced the hypothesis that processed foods and vegetable oils are the primary drivers of AMD, which is the leading cause of irreversible vision loss and blindness in people over the age of 50, worldwide. Dr. Knobbe has presented his research on ancestral dietary strategy and macular degeneration at various conferences and has also authored a book titled 'The Ancestral Diet Revolution: How Vegetable Oils and Processed Foods are Destroying Your Health'. His research suggests that macular degeneration can be prevented and treated through an ancestral dietary strategy and “sacred” foods."
The Cleveland clinic article doesn't support your point. It doesn't say that seed oils are inherently bad, only that they might not be very nutritious. It advises avoiding the ultra processed foods that seed oils are most often used in.
The study from PubMed does indeed conclude that seated oils pose health problems. However, the fact that one of the authors is a supplement seller is a bit suspicious. That, along with the fact that the majority of seed oil studies conclude the opposite. Which is why most health professionals do not consider it to be a problem.
Why do you think that this one study is better than all the others that show the opposite? Asking sincerely.
As much as I loathe Kennedy, there is actually some science behind heat treated seed oils being toxic or unhealthy if consumed over the long term.
It is best to consume fruit oils such as avocado, coconut or olive oils, or animal fats. Cold pressed seed oils are OK.
https://youtu.be/pljQrjiDC9Q?si=t4XB
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A YouTube video by a chiropractor is your source? Oof.
Can you share the study? You accidentally posted a YouTube video.
The presentation by Dr Ekberg shared was intentionally shared. Please watch it.
Here is a good summary of the risks involved in consuming heat-treated vegetable oils.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/vegetable-oils
Got it. There isn’t anything. If there was a study you would be able to share it.
You should also look at The Minnesota Study (Coronary Experiment), a clinical trial conducted between 1968 and 1973 where participants at an institution were given the same meals every day with one group having food cooked in vegetable oils and the other in high saturated fat animal fats.
https://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i1246
"There was a 22% higher risk of death for each 30 mg/dL (0.78 mmol/L) reduction in serum cholesterol in covariate adjusted Cox regression models (hazard ratio 1.22, 95% confidence interval 1.14 to 1.32; P<0.001). There was no evidence of benefit in the intervention group for coronary atherosclerosis or myocardial infarcts."
And regarding vegetable oils lowering LDL cholesterol, that is not necessarily a good thing for one's health. See this lecture by research doctor Nadir Ali.
https://youtu.be/o_QdNX9etCg?si=zsThRqf1Ce_GmMmH
Also this - see r discussion towards the end of this article
https://wearechief.com/blogs/articles/hard-science-on-the-real-cause-of-heart-disease-why-you-should-avoid-seed-oils
"Understand that oxidation within our circulation is a cause of heart disease, and if you understand that, you can see why seed oils could be a problem, but besides their oxidation potential, there's another element to seed oils that makes 'em particularly problematic when it comes to heart disease, something which is usually not considered at all.
You see they contain something called phytosterols or plant sterols, which you can think of as fake plant cholesterol. As you can see, they're near identical to cholesterol but not quite similar enough to be absorbed by the body and place of cholesterol, but different enough to not work the same.
Basically phytosterols interfere with the normal biochemical processes that use cholesterol. The highest concentration of these plant sterols is found within seed oils, especially rice bran corn and rapeseed."
I have reported this comment to Substack. It doesn't contribute to the conversation and is offensive.
Also Dr Chris Canobe who references the various research studies in his presentation here:
https://youtu.be/PvZk-jNqzgE?si=aANXtktRfECkERxk
Video description:
"Dr. Chris Knobbe is a physician, researcher, ophthalmologist, public health advocate, and Associate Clinical Professor Emeritus, formerly of the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas, Texas. He is known primarily for his research, publications, and presentations connecting Westernised diets and highly polyunsaturated vegetable oils to numerous chronic diseases, including coronary heart disease, hypertension, stroke, cancers, type 2 diabetes, metabolic syndrome, obesity, Alzheimer’s disease, autoimmune diseases, and age-related macular degeneration (AMD).
Dr. Knobbe’s research has focused greatly on the “vegetable oil hypothesis” as the primary driver of overweight and chronic disease. In 2016 he formally introduced the hypothesis that processed foods and vegetable oils are the primary drivers of AMD, which is the leading cause of irreversible vision loss and blindness in people over the age of 50, worldwide. Dr. Knobbe has presented his research on ancestral dietary strategy and macular degeneration at various conferences and has also authored a book titled 'The Ancestral Diet Revolution: How Vegetable Oils and Processed Foods are Destroying Your Health'. His research suggests that macular degeneration can be prevented and treated through an ancestral dietary strategy and “sacred” foods."
Also, here's a good presentation, with reference to scientific studies. on the long term toxicity of vegetable oils:
https://youtu.be/rQmqVVmMB3k?si=LxGo2Vy9MztCVGQY
Omega-6 vegetable oils as a driver of coronary heart disease: the oxidized linoleic acid hypothesis - PMC https://share.google/1CJeEiXjomvkZeXc8
Also this article describes why you should limit your consumption of heat treated (refined) seed oils.
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/seed-oils-are-they-actually-toxic
The Cleveland clinic article doesn't support your point. It doesn't say that seed oils are inherently bad, only that they might not be very nutritious. It advises avoiding the ultra processed foods that seed oils are most often used in.
The study from PubMed does indeed conclude that seated oils pose health problems. However, the fact that one of the authors is a supplement seller is a bit suspicious. That, along with the fact that the majority of seed oil studies conclude the opposite. Which is why most health professionals do not consider it to be a problem.
Why do you think that this one study is better than all the others that show the opposite? Asking sincerely.